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		<title>Comment on Focus by Chris Cannam</title>
		<link>http://telegraph-road.org/blog/2012/05/11/focus/#comment-19524</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Cannam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 21:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Incidentally, with regard to

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;... the goal here is to eliminate 80% of the code you have to write for your app&quot; ... That’s why he chose Objective C over C++&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Would this be a good time to point out that the C++ to Objective C conversion in your earlier &lt;a href=&quot;http://telegraph-road.org/blog/2011/04/30/edenx-update/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;edenx update post&lt;/a&gt; somehow managed to produce more than double the amount of code, in both line and character counts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Incidentally, with regard to</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;&#8230; the goal here is to eliminate 80% of the code you have to write for your app&#8221; &#8230; That’s why he chose Objective C over C++</p></blockquote>
<p>Would this be a good time to point out that the C++ to Objective C conversion in your earlier <a href="http://telegraph-road.org/blog/2011/04/30/edenx-update/" rel="nofollow">edenx update post</a> somehow managed to produce more than double the amount of code, in both line and character counts?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Focus by Chris Cannam</title>
		<link>http://telegraph-road.org/blog/2012/05/11/focus/#comment-19523</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Cannam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 21:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;High-order bit&quot;, I think, not &quot;bid&quot;. He seemed to use that term quite a lot as a cute way of saying &quot;most important thing&quot;.

If this is the video I&#039;m thinking of -- and I admit I haven&#039;t re-watched it -- then one thing I thought was interesting was the question and response about OpenDoc, which he had just effectively canned. (If you remember OpenDoc, it was a fairly complex, open-standard component embedding protocol developed by Apple with IBM as an alternative to Microsoft&#039;s COM.)

A questioner asked about OpenDoc, and his reply said two things: it had some technological flannel about how one might be able to do similar things with other technologies such as Java; and it suggested that OpenDoc was largely irrelevant to users anyway.

What I found interesting and typical about this was the way the broad statement could be spot on (OpenDoc was indeed largely irrelevant to users and a technical distraction rather than a desirable goal for a company in Apple&#039;s position) at the same time as the detail being so wrong: his answer about Java made no sense at all. (Of course there was probably a third aspect not mentioned, which was that working with IBM and open standards bodies didn&#039;t appear to be a productive use of the company&#039;s time.)

We see this in hindsight as cutting through the detail, getting to the point, envisioning the future, understanding the things that really mattered, etc.

But how would you tell the difference &lt;i&gt;at the time&lt;/i&gt; between Jobs and some equally charismatic but essentially clueless leader? I know I have listened to many business leaders produce compelling, but difficult to substantiate, talk about the future and how to get there, while misunderstanding or misrepresenting technical details in a way that infuriated me as a developer and made it very hard to trust any of the broader things they said. What would I have thought of Jobs, if I had been there as an Apple developer?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;High-order bit&#8221;, I think, not &#8220;bid&#8221;. He seemed to use that term quite a lot as a cute way of saying &#8220;most important thing&#8221;.</p>
<p>If this is the video I&#8217;m thinking of &#8212; and I admit I haven&#8217;t re-watched it &#8212; then one thing I thought was interesting was the question and response about OpenDoc, which he had just effectively canned. (If you remember OpenDoc, it was a fairly complex, open-standard component embedding protocol developed by Apple with IBM as an alternative to Microsoft&#8217;s COM.)</p>
<p>A questioner asked about OpenDoc, and his reply said two things: it had some technological flannel about how one might be able to do similar things with other technologies such as Java; and it suggested that OpenDoc was largely irrelevant to users anyway.</p>
<p>What I found interesting and typical about this was the way the broad statement could be spot on (OpenDoc was indeed largely irrelevant to users and a technical distraction rather than a desirable goal for a company in Apple&#8217;s position) at the same time as the detail being so wrong: his answer about Java made no sense at all. (Of course there was probably a third aspect not mentioned, which was that working with IBM and open standards bodies didn&#8217;t appear to be a productive use of the company&#8217;s time.)</p>
<p>We see this in hindsight as cutting through the detail, getting to the point, envisioning the future, understanding the things that really mattered, etc.</p>
<p>But how would you tell the difference <i>at the time</i> between Jobs and some equally charismatic but essentially clueless leader? I know I have listened to many business leaders produce compelling, but difficult to substantiate, talk about the future and how to get there, while misunderstanding or misrepresenting technical details in a way that infuriated me as a developer and made it very hard to trust any of the broader things they said. What would I have thought of Jobs, if I had been there as an Apple developer?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Thoughts and questions after the WWDC 2011 keynote by Cedric</title>
		<link>http://telegraph-road.org/blog/2011/06/10/thoughts-and-questions-after-the-wwdc-2011-keynote/#comment-9044</link>
		<dc:creator>Cedric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jun 2011 16:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Apple made a major mistake calling their service &quot;iCould&quot;. I would have picked a much more assertive name, like &quot;iCan&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Apple made a major mistake calling their service &#8220;iCould&#8221;. I would have picked a much more assertive name, like &#8220;iCan&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on edenx update by Guillaume Laurent</title>
		<link>http://telegraph-road.org/blog/2011/04/30/edenx-update/#comment-8972</link>
		<dc:creator>Guillaume Laurent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 May 2011 06:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Rosegarden may have benefited from that as well, but the thought didn&#039;t occur to us. As for Cocoa, the NSNotificationCenter is more than a listener framework though not really as complete as a message bus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Rosegarden may have benefited from that as well, but the thought didn&#8217;t occur to us. As for Cocoa, the NSNotificationCenter is more than a listener framework though not really as complete as a message bus.</p>
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		<title>Comment on edenx update by Cedric</title>
		<link>http://telegraph-road.org/blog/2011/04/30/edenx-update/#comment-8963</link>
		<dc:creator>Cedric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Apr 2011 23:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Recently, I have been replacing my listener infrastructure with a local bus, which I find more straightforward and requiring less boiler-plate:

http://beust.com/weblog/2010/07/26/local-message-bus/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recently, I have been replacing my listener infrastructure with a local bus, which I find more straightforward and requiring less boiler-plate:</p>
<p><a href="http://beust.com/weblog/2010/07/26/local-message-bus/" rel="nofollow">http://beust.com/weblog/2010/07/26/local-message-bus/</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Random tidbits by Guillaume Laurent</title>
		<link>http://telegraph-road.org/blog/2010/08/13/random-tidbits/#comment-2813</link>
		<dc:creator>Guillaume Laurent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 18:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; a hopeless article, and one that&#039;s already been written dozens of times before. What I found funny were the replies which were so caricatural and thus proving the author&#039;s point. And I still disagree with the &quot;I&#039;ll implement what I want and the general interest be damned&quot; adamant mentality of the Open Source community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It <em>is</em> a hopeless article, and one that&#8217;s already been written dozens of times before. What I found funny were the replies which were so caricatural and thus proving the author&#8217;s point. And I still disagree with the &#8220;I&#8217;ll implement what I want and the general interest be damned&#8221; adamant mentality of the Open Source community.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Random tidbits by Chris Cannam</title>
		<link>http://telegraph-road.org/blog/2010/08/13/random-tidbits/#comment-2776</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Cannam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the Dilbert strip used in that article -- I used to have it pinned by the monitor in a previous job, 15-odd years ago.

However -- it&#039;s a pretty hopeless article.  It&#039;s all very well as a rant, but it&#039;s basically an extremely personal rant against a group of people who, the article hints, are in fact some of the likely readers of the blog -- but whose existence is not actually supported in the article.  The response to it is pretty much as you&#039;d expect if you posted the typical diatribe against smug clueless Apple users (or whatever) in an Apple-friendly blog: of course there is some truth in the complaints, but much of the article is a long way from being indisputable and the manner is pure provocation.  Was it actually intended to achieve anything positive?

I think the essence of the outrage in the comments can be summarised as: You seem to be criticising people like me, in ways that are really kind of personal, just because we don&#039;t show much interest in the things you think are most important.

In that xkcd article, the Linux guy is shown as out of touch with what the typical consumer user wants -- but so what?  He&#039;s getting what _he_ wants, and he&#039;s happy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the Dilbert strip used in that article &#8212; I used to have it pinned by the monitor in a previous job, 15-odd years ago.</p>
<p>However &#8212; it&#8217;s a pretty hopeless article.  It&#8217;s all very well as a rant, but it&#8217;s basically an extremely personal rant against a group of people who, the article hints, are in fact some of the likely readers of the blog &#8212; but whose existence is not actually supported in the article.  The response to it is pretty much as you&#8217;d expect if you posted the typical diatribe against smug clueless Apple users (or whatever) in an Apple-friendly blog: of course there is some truth in the complaints, but much of the article is a long way from being indisputable and the manner is pure provocation.  Was it actually intended to achieve anything positive?</p>
<p>I think the essence of the outrage in the comments can be summarised as: You seem to be criticising people like me, in ways that are really kind of personal, just because we don&#8217;t show much interest in the things you think are most important.</p>
<p>In that xkcd article, the Linux guy is shown as out of touch with what the typical consumer user wants &#8212; but so what?  He&#8217;s getting what _he_ wants, and he&#8217;s happy.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A quick reality check for Vic Gundotra by glaurent</title>
		<link>http://telegraph-road.org/blog/2010/05/29/a-quick-reality-check-for-vic-gundotra/#comment-2433</link>
		<dc:creator>glaurent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 16:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure, but since the story was in the past it felt more appropriate :).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure, but since the story was in the past it felt more appropriate <img src='http://telegraph-road.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
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		<title>Comment on A quick reality check for Vic Gundotra by Cedric</title>
		<link>http://telegraph-road.org/blog/2010/05/29/a-quick-reality-check-for-vic-gundotra/#comment-2432</link>
		<dc:creator>Cedric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 16:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why the past tense?  I&#039;m still your friend :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why the past tense?  I&#8217;m still your friend <img src='http://telegraph-road.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on About that Section 3.3.1 of the new iPhone SDK by glaurent</title>
		<link>http://telegraph-road.org/blog/2010/04/11/about-that-section-3-3-1-of-the-new-iphone-sdk/#comment-2406</link>
		<dc:creator>glaurent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Apr 2010 16:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not so sure that if consumers acted rationally, the Mac would have gained dominance. Now consumers &lt;em&gt;do not&lt;/em&gt; act rationally, that&#039;s a given. However, the Mac suffered in the beginning from many problems, it&#039;s only since OS X that it&#039;s faults are largely offset by its qualities.

I do agree however that platforms on which it&#039;s easy to sell software are more successful. Example : Windows. Counter example : Linux.

Regarding Apple imposing more and more tech restrictions, well, I obviously really hope it won&#039;t happen. The backlash would quickly reach huge proportions. Just yesterday a &lt;a href=&quot;http://9to5mac.com/mac_like_iphone&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;rumor circulated that OS X 10.7 would only run Apple signed binaries&lt;/a&gt;. The comments were telling enough, even if few bought it at first.

About the software quality control issue, I disagree with you. Apple can much more easily audit a binary compiled in XCode, knowing then that it will only use permitted APIs. That falls more under the &quot;security control&quot; category though, but it&#039;s a valid possibility nonetheless.

Let&#039;s wait and see what happens next with the download pages :-). May be it&#039;s just a temporary glitch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not so sure that if consumers acted rationally, the Mac would have gained dominance. Now consumers <em>do not</em> act rationally, that&#8217;s a given. However, the Mac suffered in the beginning from many problems, it&#8217;s only since OS X that it&#8217;s faults are largely offset by its qualities.</p>
<p>I do agree however that platforms on which it&#8217;s easy to sell software are more successful. Example : Windows. Counter example : Linux.</p>
<p>Regarding Apple imposing more and more tech restrictions, well, I obviously really hope it won&#8217;t happen. The backlash would quickly reach huge proportions. Just yesterday a <a href="http://9to5mac.com/mac_like_iphone" rel="nofollow">rumor circulated that OS X 10.7 would only run Apple signed binaries</a>. The comments were telling enough, even if few bought it at first.</p>
<p>About the software quality control issue, I disagree with you. Apple can much more easily audit a binary compiled in XCode, knowing then that it will only use permitted APIs. That falls more under the &#8220;security control&#8221; category though, but it&#8217;s a valid possibility nonetheless.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s wait and see what happens next with the download pages <img src='http://telegraph-road.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> . May be it&#8217;s just a temporary glitch.</p>
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